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Following the exit of Adrian Deutsch from the Riders’ camp there were weighty moments of apprehension. “Yeah, I had those classic wake up at four in the morning moments, thinking ‘what the hell am I going to do’.” Al elaborates, “To have 2008 off was the first time we had actually stopped. It was weird because you start to get used to (having a normal job) and think it’s nice to have security. We went through the shows (in the US) and suddenly everyone’s passion is reignited.” Surrounded by pokies with Avril Lavigne’s shrill voice blaring from a jukebox, our conversation turns to the nitty gritty of the music industry. When asked what he thinks of current trends in music, the power of sex to sell records and the push for pop, Al’s answer is typically modest, “Yeah, we’re an indy band signed to an indy label and it doesn’t enter my mind when I’m writing a song and I only write a song when I have the desire to do so.” I lead my interviewee into a discussion of musicians who have attempted to alter society, “My biggest problem with (John) Lennon,” Al says, “is that he’ll put the song ‘Imagine’ on the same album he’ll have the song ‘How Do You Sleep?’ about Paul McCartney, a bitter, outright mean and unforgiving song. To me it brands Imagine a perfect example of why so much in the world is shit. It’s two things: one - it’s easy to have the ideal of peace and forgiveness but if you can’t even forgive someone who you were in a band with how are you meant to forgive somebody that is part of a system that’s been keeping a whole race down? “It also shows for Lennon the problem lies without – (for him) it’s the government. If everybody on a personal level took responsibility for being involved in social issues or even just being civil or humane to people around them you’d change a whole lot more than I think you’d realise. I definitely think that governments do hold a lot of clout and do need to be changed but I also think you need to do things on a personal level.” As for what we can expect from the new album, Al tells me, “this is an album where each song has its own identity without them being studies in style. At the same time, I think the common thread between a lot of the songs is way more defined (than on 2006’s Replica Replica)...At the heart of Red Riders it’s always just been that we like songs that we like and we play them. And that’s kinda it.” And that is it. If you want to listen to well written songs performed with menacing charisma, get to the next Red Riders show. And say hi to Al. He’ll say hi back. He’s that kind of guy. |
